tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post4121774899370535823..comments2024-03-28T03:27:26.345-04:00Comments on Dee-lusions of Grandeur: Rachel's Little Calendar GirlDee Mentiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07798903090538917010noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-10715869093939544602012-04-20T14:57:08.407-04:002012-04-20T14:57:08.407-04:00Closure relative to the central narrative conflict...Closure relative to the central narrative conflict. It's possible to have that kind of closure while still leaving things in a continual state of conflict or denial that becomes the new normal for the protagonist. You're correct that not all stories need closure, either. Not providing closure is a delicate balancing act between leaving the end open enough to be compelling and giving enough to not make the reader feel cheated, though. For many people it's tricky to get right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-48118908532415494402012-04-20T13:13:47.812-04:002012-04-20T13:13:47.812-04:00Let me start by saying thanks for mentioning Sarag...Let me start by saying thanks for mentioning Saragirl's Sissy Confessions. I had visited it once but it was after a night of bouncing from blog to blog to blog. The next day I couldn't remember the name, and thought it was lost forever. I'm now a follower, and list it on my own blog so I won't lose it again!<br /><br />As to the question. I think the humiliation is best when you have some control. It puts the impitus of change on you. If its completely forced, then there is the ability to think "Oh well I didn't have a choice. I tried to stop it, but I couldn't". But if you are coerced into doing it... then you don't have any such excuse. You chose to do that, or act that way. It might have been in lieu of something else (blackmail photos for example), but its still on you. YOU chose to do it. <br /><br />I guess that kind of lines up with compliance as you are being told to do something, and doing it.Caitlyn Maskedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02732033913089350905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-19546522497519019702012-04-20T11:04:09.097-04:002012-04-20T11:04:09.097-04:00Those sources play heavily with those who seek it ...Those sources play heavily with those who seek it I think. Combining them all would probably be the ultimate.<br /><br />I think that shame might be a better word for what I've been talking about than humiliation. Shame is a bit less harshful sounding and does imply less force.<br /><br />I definitely need to ruminate some more on the comments here!Dee Mentiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07798903090538917010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-88161975445699591942012-04-20T11:00:24.447-04:002012-04-20T11:00:24.447-04:00I think your last paragraph hit it square on the h...I think your last paragraph hit it square on the head for me.<br /><br />I would think that at the very least, the Stockholm Syndrome would rear its head at some point, where you would end up identifying with the goals of the one that is imparting their will on you.<br /><br />Then again, I always thought the best was to domme was to use a military example .. you tear down one set of beliefs by building up the things you want to reinforce. An example would be to insult the man's lack of size "a real man would have enough to please me!" with a compliment, "a real woman knows how to please another woman orally, like you do sweetie!"Dee Mentiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07798903090538917010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-55685311383686236132012-04-20T10:54:27.959-04:002012-04-20T10:54:27.959-04:00Good points, though I wouldn't concede that TG...Good points, though I wouldn't concede that TG caption narratives need closure.<br /><br />Compliance is an interesting state of mind as it is. I mean, I have thought about plotlines where the guy is defiant that he won't be overly feminized, and insists he's still rebelling because he's wearing pants. Of course they are capris, with nylons and heels .. makeup, perm, etc .. but in his mind, he's still male. The compliance aspect can be held and/or molded by both the person in control and the one that is being coerced.Dee Mentiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07798903090538917010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-24058804061628167662012-04-19T21:45:18.898-04:002012-04-19T21:45:18.898-04:00I'm really not too in to humiliation myself. ...I'm really not too in to humiliation myself. I theorize that some of the attraction may come from being raised in a conservative household with a negative view of sex as a whole which might create an association between shame and sexual pleasure. If you feel shame while experiencing pleasure, its possible that you condition yourself to feel pleasure when you feel shame in general.<br /><br />Also, I think the humiliation could come from two sources. The first would be when you are coerced into something you don't wholely wish to do. Therefore you can be embarrassed by the act, and by your inability to resist the coercion. The second would be if its something you want to do, but society deams inappropriate. There the embarrassment would some from the act and from the fact that you desire to break a taboo.<br /><br />At least those are my two cents on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-29258207550434575332012-04-19T19:28:36.736-04:002012-04-19T19:28:36.736-04:00I find this an interesting thing to comment on bec...I find this an interesting thing to comment on because I tend to make a lot of force feminization captions but I don't want them made for myself. Many of the tropes I can't personally relate to. Submitting to a cruel, powerful woman, violent or physically forced situations and the cage thing are all some elements I don't find appealing. However, many who enjoy TG fiction/captions do. <br /><br />The things that DO appeal to me is the seductive surrender to a fetish or feeling. Gentle femdom has an appeal to me as well (lovering partners, gradual release of power, surrender) because I like playing with compulsions. <br /><br />I believe my biggest divide is the idea of total forced feminization. It's one thing to perhaps be worn down or being driven to finally admit that you want something but it's another to have something you never truly wanted. I know for many it's the escape from responsibility, but I find it more fun when you have to admit you wanted it and you in some way choose to take the step. Perhaps it's also the mistress in me.Mistress Simonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03830472323307586514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1870069212223825401.post-53728240582876122442012-04-19T18:45:48.713-04:002012-04-19T18:45:48.713-04:00I prefer forced caps. Being forced has nothing to...I prefer forced caps. Being forced has nothing to do with being embarrassed or humiliated. For me it's about narrative conflict. Conflict makes the story interesting. Without it you just have a story of someone getting just what they want. That might be the interesting end of a journey, but we rarely see any other part of the journey in willing captions beyond a sentence or so mentioning how much the protagonist had to sacrifice. <br /><br />Similarly compliance isn't about humiliation. It's about denouement. That's why the end doesn't have to be compliance. It can be adjustment, authentic enjoyment or even an ongoing struggle for identity. The important thing is the narrative closure the end state provides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com